Chapter Meeting Highlights

Two Useful Presentations

Our September meeting featured two informative and practical live demonstrations. The main program was presented by Dick Pridham and was titled “Materials Used in Clock Repair.” The premise of Dick’s talk was that you should take advantage of easy-to-find materials to create the parts and tools you need in every day repairs.

He started with simple things, like using braided Dacron fishing line, available at most sporting good stores, for replacing gut weight cables. He then demonstrated how to use “feeler gauge” stock to fabricate suspension springs. To punch the necessary holes in the spring material, he used an old drill bit which had been ground down to very near the bottom of the twist grooves. A block of plumber’s lead was used as an anvil which allowed the punch to push through the spring.

A plumbing supply store is the place to find thin-walled brass pipe, says Dick, which can be used as either battery compartments for old electrics, or for fabricating clock weights. Other sources for scrap brass and remnants were discussed.

Brazing rods used in welding can be used to make odd-sized bushings, and thin drill rod stock makes a perfect replacement for bent or missing lantern pinion rods. Dick even fired up his acetylene torch and demonstrated how to harden the drill rod material. With the Ebell Club’s old wooden stage and wooden floors just inches away, more than a few of us were looking around for the fire extinguishers – just in case. (Of course, with Dick’s expertise, such concern was wholly unnecessary.)

What a wealth of handy tips we received! Dick showed a ceramic block for soldering, toothpicks for pegging out pivot holes, abrasives from automotive paint supply houses to help with case refinishing, a homemade spring winder and pivot polisher, and several other useful items and ideas. Our thanks to Dick for an outstanding and useful program.

Ray Marsolek presented the Beginner’s Corner entitled “Small Power Hand Tools.” He displayed a dentist’s drill, different types of Dremel tools, including cord and cordless, as well as a larger “flex shaft” tool. All of these tools can be used for grinding, cutting, and polishing, with the flex shaft tool taking on the heavier work. Ray showed several collets and bits for his Dremel tools, as well as a Dremel flexible shaft, which he said was not as useful or effective as the larger tool. [For more information on Dremel tools, you can visit their web site at]

If you have an idea for either a Beginner’s Corner presentation (around 10 minutes) or a full program (about 30 minutes), please see Terry Cunningham at one of the meetings.

We had a very interesting Show & Tell. Al Kahn started with a Seth Thomas #3 double dial calendar parlor clock from 1878. He found this clock in exceptional condition at an estate sale.

Dave Weisbart showed an Ansonia “Apex” 10-day alarm clock. He explained the interesting alarm mechanism that allowed the user to adjust the length of the ring.

Another Ansonia clock, “Cyrus,” was displayed by Roy Irick. This clock had been polished so much that many of the ornaments were worn down to the copper plating underneath the gilding. Roy wanted to display it in its pre-restored state so we could see the magical transformation he’s about to inflict on it.

Bud Saiben showed a reproduction of the famous Seth Thomas violin clock, and told the story of a woman who inherited one of the very rare originals.

For the second year, a drawing was held to reward one Show & Tell participant from the previous year. For each time a member brought something for Show & Tell, a ticket with that person’s name was created. All the tickets were placed in a box, and Roy Irick was our winner! He gets a free annual door pass badge (a $22 value).

At the beginning of the meeting, Roy had asked if anyone had an opinion about the ideal length of our meetings, since there have been some negative comments lately about the meetings running too long. Bernie Peralta offered 9:30 as a target for finishing the meeting. We did pretty well – the meeting adjourned at 9:33.

General Meeting Minutes
September 1, 2000

President Roy Irick called the meeting to order at 8:00. Addressing concerns about overly-long meetings, he requested opinions regarding the ideal meeting length, and past president Bernie Peralta offered 9:30 as a target ending time.

Roy welcomed guests Patrick Espy, David Jensen, Louis Acuna, and Mary and Tom Anderson. He then thanked Terry and Marsha Cunningham for providing the refreshments.

Announcements included upcoming marts, especially the Del Mar Regional, and the upcoming board meeting at the Cunninghams’. It was also announced that Bill Spry had passed away.

Saul Zitter was thanked for providing the annual audit of Chapter 69’s books.

Jay McAlister announced the upcoming Scientific Instrument show in Los Angeles.

Ray Marsolek provided the Beginner’s Corner program, an introduction to small power hand tools.

Dick Pridham presented the main program, a wide-ranging discussion and demonstration of using readily available materials in the repair of clocks.

Those officers who were not at the July meeting due to their attendance at the Philadelphia national were given a proper installation by Al Kahn. These included Mary Ann Wahlner, Terry Cunningham, Ray Marsolek, and Dave Weisbart.

A drawing was held for the free annual pass given to one Show & Tell participant from the last membership year. One ticket for each participant for each time he or she participated was placed in a box. Roy Irick’s name was drawn.

As explained in the last Tic Talk Times, numbered door prize tickets were handed out during the meeting. When the numbers were drawn, Bud Saiben, Dick Duwe, and Anne Pridham were the winners.

Show & Tell included Al Kahn, Dave Weisbart, Roy Irick, and Bud Saiben.

Respectfully submitted, David Weisbart, Secretary

Director’s Meeting Minutes
September 6, 2000

The director’s meeting was held at the home of Terry and Marsha Cunningham with President Roy Irick presiding. In attendance were Mary Ann Wahlner, Julie Stevens, Bob and Cora Lee Linkenhoker and Terry and Marsha Cunningham.

The annual audit was recently completed by Saul Zitter. The board thanks him for his timely contribution.

Procedures for improving the live presentations were discussed, especially when a video camera is being used. Presenters have to be coached in how to best display items that they have brought with them.

It was decided the February meeting be moved to the second Friday, February 9, due to the Los Angeles Regional being held during the first Friday of the month.

The official starting time for opening the doors to the Ebell Club on meeting nights will remain 7:00 pm, but may be opened a little earlier if the Ways and Means Director chooses to do so.

As no one has been assigned to hanging the chapter banner at meetings, it was decided that this should fall under the duties of the Mart Director, Doug Adams.

There is still a vacancy on the board of directors. As a quorum was not present, nominations were not made.

Mary Ann Wahlner suggested that names of new chapter members be placed in the Tic Talk Times. The directors concurred.

Dave Weisbart informed the board that the set-up fee for the officers’ name badges would cost approximately $45.00 with each badge costing $3.15. This expenditure was approved.

The October directors meeting will be hosted by Marry Ann Wahlner.

The meeting adjorned and hostess Marsha Cunningham presented some wonderful goodies and refreshements.

Minutes prepared by Terry Cunningham, Vice-President

South County Sub-chapter Minutes

A South County sub-chapter meeting was held on Sunday, August 13, 2000 at 2 P.M. at the ParaTech Coating building in Aliso Viejo. Minutes of the July 16 meeting were approved as circulated as well as the financial report.

New member Bob Leonard and his wife Rosemarie introduced themselves and were welcomed. Bob indicated that his interest in watches was awakened when his grandfather’s 1902 gold pocket watch was lost or stolen about 1970. He recalls seeing the watch as a child and hearing the family stories about it. Seems that his grandfather and a few of his chums were “walking the rails” as young boys tended to do in 1902 when they heard the whistle of an oncoming train. But Grandfather also saw a big boulder on the track and knew it could cause the train to crash. He ran ahead and snatched the boulder from the track just before the train got there. Officials of the railroad later presented the pocket watch, engraved “Presented to Isome Ramsey in appreciation. 1902” The watch was last seen in Los Angeles in 1972. Bob haunts antique shows and swap meets hoping it will show up again.

Show and Tell consists of whatever members choose to bring or discuss. Mike Taylor needed suggestions on the repair of a Howard Miller signature clock. He had removed the dial for cleaning and needed to replace some of the numerals but could not get them to “stick.” One of about four suggestions should do the trick.

A South County sub-chapter meeting was held on Sunday, September 10, 2000 at 2 P.M. at the ParaTech Coating building in Aliso Viejo. Minutes of the August 13, 2000 meeting were approved as circulated as well as the financial report.

A video of the Engle Clock was shown for the program of the afternoon.

Mike Taylor also brought a home video of an organ clock he had spent a year and a half restoring. It is similar to the “Apollo” clock shown in Ord-Humes’ book “Musical Clocks.” The video showed the operating mechanism, bellows, rollers and pins in the 6 inch diameter cylinder, one of the four contained in a separate “box” connected to the clock. Mike’s video also showed the striking mechanism of an old Dutch two bell movement.

Show and Tell consists of whatever members choose to bring or discuss. Mike Taylor needed suggestions on the repair of a nine tube Argus movement where the minute hand kept stopping at 8:08. Jeffrey Stewart brought two keys for a Nibb bracket clock. One was the original and one Jeffrey had made. A discussion of epoxies and their uses followed.

The next meeting will be held on October 8, 2000 at ParaTech at 2 P.M. Any NAWCC member is welcome. For information call 949-859-7784. ParaTech may be reached from El Toro Road by going south on Moulton Parkway; right on Glenwood Dr; left on Argonaut to #35.

The November meeting will be held on November 5 at a member’s home.

Minutes submitted by Mary Ann Wahlner

These were the minutes as published in Chapter 69's official newsletter, the Tic Talk Times.

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